Need help on squad building

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  1. TimeMatter

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    i need a teams for everything I recently returned.
    The units I have:
    :fire:Avant, Glenn, Rengaku, Vargas, Rugahr, Azurai, malef, Alessa, Barion, Agina, Ludero
    :water:Stein, Camilla, Hugh, Azalea, Kitsu, Selena, Azami, Melord, Amu Yunos
    :earth:Hisui, Rozalia, Serge, Gyras, Lanza, Bjorn & Linlin, Lance
    :thunder:Rize, Fizz, Licht, Ewan, Zora, Cleria, Beiorg, Eze
    :light:Lara, Izuna, Zekt, Agress, Diastima, Elphelt, Reseus, Logi, Lilith
    :dark:Magress, Mifune, Elza, Kalon, Johan, Zeek, Mizo Dorte, Dirk Rezo, Haido
     
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    Bjorn (Lead), Cleria, Izuna, Azurai, Stein
    Bjorn is a great leader cause of his LS and XP boost and since u don't have any unit with dmg mitigation eg regil, alan, lukroar
    Cleria is just a good unit for any squad with her BB boost on spark and HoT
    Izuna for Spark buff and HP to ATK conversion
    Azurai for Crit buff, Tri stat buff, and BB atk boost
    Johan for mitigation and BC buff and OD fill
    And now you just wait for Acyls opinion haha.
     
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    Not sure what to say to that, TBH. :p
    Several dmg mit leads here. Azurai LS for 10% always-on dmg mitigation, Cleria or Hisui for 20% dmg mitigation after 5k dmg. Technically also Beiorg, Alessa, etc. Admittedly Cleria/Hisui/etc don't play well with Alza Masta friend.
    This is true, but Johan has the shitty non-scaling type of OD fill, not the good type. Stein and Hisui are still possibilities for this slot, Johan isn't a must-have.

    @TimeMatter - there's a few ways you can go about this. Pros and cons to each approach. With this set of units I'd say it gets a little complicated since I don't see a super clean way to fit literally everything you want for all content into a build, some swaps may be necessary.

    MAIN SQUAD OPTION #1
    :thunder:Cleria, :thunder:Beiorg (or swap for Azurai), :water:Stein (or Hisui/Johan), :fire:Barion (or Agnia/Camilla/Izuna/Eze/Elza), :thunder:Zora (or Dirk Rezo, swap for Bjorn & Linlin)

    - LEAD FOR BOSS FIGHTS (trial/GGC): Cleria lead with Regil, Lukroar, Alan, Azurai, Jack-O', Alza Masta, Shida, etc. friend.
    - IF NEED CRIT NULL consider taking Hisui as squad lead. However Hisui is squishier than other units here as he has no self HP increase.
    - ALTERNATIVELY, bring Lara (WITH NO 50% DMG REDUCTION SP) in empty squad slot if need crit null (esp. if can remove Barion slot, i.e. w/regil/lukroar friend - see below.
    - for easier content that earns XP, run Bjorn & Linlin as lead
    - for raid/etc content where you need DPS lead and can't earn XP anyway, use Agnia/Izuna lead or something. Azurai/Barion lead is possible, but for regular raid you won't want crit. See below.
    - if using own Cleria/Azurai lead and friend is Regil/Lukroar, can take Barion out of squad if need extra space

    - Cleria slot is for LS, heals, sparks fill BB gauge, BB fill when squad damaged. If Stein/Johan/Camilla also in squad they can do BB fill when squad damaged on SBB, otherwise need Cleria BB for this.
    - Beiorg for stat buffs as Beiorg also carries 80% KO resistance UBB, which you want in a squad for boss fights - cast early as safety net. If doing easier content can bring Azurai for crit buffs, but DO NOT USE AZURAI or any other crit buffer for regular raid sphere material farming in RC5+ unless you're fully aware of issues with crit there (can fuck your drops).
    - if no Hisui in squad, SP Beiorg for def relative to atk. Can also alternate Azurai's BB/SBB for stat stack.
    - Stein/Hisui/Johan for 50% dmg reduction.
    - Barion for spark dmg buff as he also bundles BB atk, if there's no Azurai in squad. But other spark dmg buffer is possible.
    - Zora for ailment/debuffs as, well, ailment/debuffs are hard-required in some content. Optional in most stuff tho, just needed in SOME places,

    MAIN SQUAD OPTION #2
    :fire:Azurai, :water:Stein (or Johan), :earth:Bjorn & Linlin, :dark:Elza, (last slot depends)
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    this variant assumes Azurai LS for hard boss fights, if need crit null probably bring Lara in last slot
    - Elza should be SP'd for spark dmg buff, HP, sparks fill BB gauge - issue is this will need Omni+ SP on Elza
    - squad has crit baked in since Azurai is in squad, so squad will suck ass for raid RC5+ sphere mat farming
    - squad has no Beiorg for KO resistance unless Beiorg in last slot
    - squad may need to use Elza UBB for ailments, unless Zora or something in last slot

    FRONTIER HUNTER
    :fire:Barion (Lead) + :fire:Malef, :fire:Rugahr, :fire:Ludero, (last slot depends)

    - ideally use a second copy of Barion or Rugahr in last slot
    - SP Malef for element add

    ARENA
    - Fizz or Camilla for regular arena lead and colo atk, or possibly Lanza LS for ABP/CBP increase
    - Lanza for colo def
    - squad members: Azurai, Selena (w/Lexida sphere), Logi, Izuna
    - SP units where appropriate for KO resistance, e.g. Azurai, Selena, maybe Lanza[/QUOTE]
     
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    [/QUOTE]
    I recently got:
    :water:Holia
    :earth:Freed
    :light:Ark, Solos
     
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    You'll probably get the most use out of :light:Solos as a mit since he can replace your :water:Stein/:earth:Hisui role. :water:Holia and :earth:Freed have similar kits (the main difference being Holia's heals to Freed's OD), both carrying the important Crit/EWD null buff. You can slot one of these in place of the :light:Lara that Acyl suggested to swap in for crit null. If by :light:Ark you mean OE, he is still a decent conditional mit LS, but as you have :thunder:Cleria, you won't be using him much for that. He is a 6-elements (SP) but there are units who do that job better. He can also Crit + Ele null (SP) but seeing as he won't add anything to your squad outside that, I wouldn't recommend him.

    Edit: Ouch dude
     
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    Acyl would you agree with what Brimestone Emperor has to say???
     
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    Pretty much, yeah. Just one additional point:

    Holia carries 80% KO resistance UBB, similar to Beiorg and Bjorn & Linlin. This is a very good UBB to bring in a squad if you're fighting bosses - it's an extremely good safety net, can really save your ass. Thing is you only really need one unit in the squad with it, of course. This means Holia's usefulness may vary; if you've already got Beiorg or Bjorn & Linlin in a squad then it's less crucial to consider her, if you don't then, y'know, etc.

    It's a nice enough UBB that there's no harm in having multiple units raised that can do it.
     
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    Got:
    :water:Zalts
    :earth:Baro
    :thunder:Jireid
    :dark:Ciardha
    (P.S. can you recommend a team for strategist zone?)
     
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    :water:Zalts - prob low priority, has OD fill, BB atk, lead skill is okay as a non-crit dmg lead, but you have options for these elsewhere. He's alright, just not standout.
    :earth:Baro - ailment cleanse unit with BB fill when squad damaged, some odd grab bag of optional support buffs. Not bad but not high profile.
    :thunder:Jireid - possibly useful - can do spark dmg buff+ailments in one slot, e.g. in standard build could be used for Barion slot without the need for Zora in last position vs. boss that requires ailments to kill (or where ailments are recommended), thus saving one squad space. Doesn't do stat debuff however (Zora would do both atk debuff and ailments together).
    :dark:Ciardha - strong arena/colo unit... and very strong arena/colo squad lead of course, but as a lead requires dark squad and you may not have enough dark arena units to justify it. Some people do use Ciardha's batch as a solo attacker in regular arena tho (apparently there is a point boost if your squad has empty slots).
     
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    got recently:
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    :light:Linasera
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