Spoiler New BFJP units release

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  1. Kate Lago08

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    Lord Stats/Imps:

    HP: 8233 (+1250)
    ATK: 3064 (+400)
    DEF: 3367 (+800)
    REC: 2836 (+500)

    Cost: 50

    Hits/DC: 9 / 5
    • LS: +60% HP/DEF, +10% Guard mitigation, 4-7 BC when hit, 1000-1200 HoT 10% REC)
      ES: +80% DEF when HP is full, +20% mitigation after receiving 5000 damage

      BB: 15 hits AoE (420%), ? BC fill, +?% DEF buff for 3 turns, +50% mitigation for 1 turn
      SBB: 18 hits AoE (620%), ? BC fill, ?% DEF buff, +?% Guard mitigation, ? BC fill on guard for 3 turns, +50% mitigation for 1 turn
      UBB: 21 hits AoE (1800%), 98999-99999 HoT, +?% Guard mitigation, 50 BC when hit, +75% mitigation for 3 turns
      BC Cost: 15 || 18 || 21
    SP Cost Effect
    20 50% Def
    10 20% HP/Atk
    20 2-3 BC on Hit
    10 Upgrade BC on Hit (2-3 to 3-4)
    20 Negate Def ignore damage
    20 Enhance BB/SBB mitigation to 2 turns
    30 BB & SBB+: BB/SBB BB gauge boost +2 BC
    40 Add Effect to BB/SBB (3 turn 4-7 BC on Hit)
    40 Add Effect to BB/SBB (3 turn 70% Def -> Atk)
    20 Add Effect to BB/SBB (Status Cleanse)
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    Lord Stats/Imps:

    HP: 8372 (+1500)
    ATK: 3214 (+600)
    DEF: 3133 (+600)
    REC: 2781 (+600)

    Cost: 50

    Hits/DC: 13 / 4

    • LS: +50% Stats, +200% BB/SBB/UBB Mod, +10% all element mitigation, +50% BB fill rate
      ES: +50% ATK when HP is above 50%, chance to take 1 damage (10% chance)

      BB: 15 hits AoE (420%), +?% ATK, +?% BB Mod for 3 turns
      SBB: 19 hits AoE (?%, +?% based on HP remaining), +?% Spark debuff for 2 turns, +?% BB Mod, +?% Spark damage, +?% HP -> ATK for 3 turns
      UBB: 25 hits AoE (?%, +?% based on HP remaining), +?% HP buff, +?% BB Mod, +?% Spark damage, +75% mitigation for 3 turns
      BC Cost: 15 || 19 || 25
    SP Cost Effect
    25 50% all stats
    20 100% Spark
    10 Raise Atk cap to 130k
    10 LS+: +10% stats to LS
    30 LS+: +5% mitigation on LS
    30 Add Effect to BB/SBB (3 turn Status Null)
    45 Add Effect to BB/SBB (1 turn Null element damage)
    30 Add Effect to BB/SBB (Heal 2500-3500 + 11% Rec
    35 Add Effect to BB/SBB (3 turn +100% Atk/Def for Light types)
    10 BB & SBB+: 120% Atk/Def for Light types
    Arena Type: 2

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    Lord Stat/Imps:

    HP: 8196 (+1250)
    ATK: 3688 (+800)
    DEF: 2702 (+400)
    REC: 2914 (+500)

    Cost: 50

    Hits/DC: 7 / 7

    • LS: +60% ATK/HP, 4-7 BC when hit, 5-10% HP drain, proc AI once (20% chance)
      ES: 20-25% heal when hit (25% chance), proc AI twice (40% chance)

      BB: 12 hits AoE (?%), 4 hits ST (?%), AI buff for 999 turns (10% proc chance), HP drain buff for 3 turns
      SBB: 16 hits AoE (?%), 5 hits AoE exclusive AoE to Light enemies (?%), AI buff for 999 turns (10% proc chance), +60% Crit rate, +?% Crit damage for 3 turns
      UBB: 22 hits AoE (1800%), AI buff for 999 turns (80% proc chance), +?% ATK, +?% Crit damage, +?% Dark EWD
      BC Cost: 12 || 16 || 22
    SP Cost Effect
    10 50% Atk
    10 0-80% Atk relative to remaining HP
    15 100% Spark
    10 Upgrade Spark (100% to 120%)
    20 75% Crit DMG
    10 Raise Atk cap to 130k
    55 LS+: +5% chance to proc Angel Idol
    50 Add Effect to BB/SBB (3 turn 150% Dark EWD)
    40 Add Effect to BB/SBB (3 turn 20% chance to inflict 20% Atk Down)
    Arena Type: 2
     
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  2. LunarEmerald

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    Light is new and improved Azurai for survivability

    Dark is the new and improved Juno for colo

    By leader skills alone.
     
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    Light unit LS is ridiculous
    Combined with Ark LS, you can get 85% mtigation
    Not to mention he is bulky AF, with 50% all stats ES and 50% def
    New meta is indeed coming
     
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    Yea the new light unit combined with ark LS is a new meta... still waiting for their bb/sbb/ubb though..
     
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    yeah, new light unit is already better than Azurai and we don't even have his bb/sbb/ubb yet
     
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    BB/SBB data(stolen from reddit)

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    Valen (fire)

    BB: 15 hit fire AOE, greatly fill allies' BB gauge, 3 turn great Def buff, 1 turn 50% mitigation

    SBB: 18 hit fire AOE, greatly fill allies' BB gauge, 3 turn great Def buff, guard mitigation and BB gauge fill on guard buff, 1 turn 50% mitigation

    UBB: 21 hit fire AOE, 3 turn full HoT, large guard mitigation, great BB gauge fill on hit, 75% mitigation

    ────────

    Zalvard (dark)

    BB: 12 hit dark AOE, 4 hit dark ST, low chance angel idol party buff, 3 turn chance HP drain buff.

    SBB: 16 hit dark AOE, extra 5 hit dark AOE only on Light enemies, low chance angel idol party buff, 3 turn critical hit chance and damage up.

    UBB: 22 hit dark AOE, high chance angel idol party buff, 3 turn large Atk and crit damage buff, large dark EWD buff.

    ──────── Regil(light)





    BB:15 hits 420% AoE, 3 turn Atk buff, 3 turn BB Atk buff
    Max BC Gen: 15

    SBB: 19 hits AoE (relative to remaining HP), 2 turn Spark vulnerability, 3 turn BB Atk buff, 3 turn Spark buff, 3 turn HP -> Atk buff
    Max BC Gen: 19

    UBB:25 hits AoE (relative to remaining HP), HP buff, 3 turn BB Atk buff, 3 turn Spark buff, 3 turn 75% mitigation
    Max BC Gen: 25



    1. fug azurai
    2. DOES THIS MEAN KIRA/FEEVA OE ARE GOING TO BE GOOD TOO!?

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    crossing my fingers, not holding my breathe
     
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    Alim finally did some decent power-creep!(y) Either a sign for more harder content to come...or just not giving much flakc anymore.:rofl:
     
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    So based on the BB information without raw numbers and the LS
    Fire SP: 50% Def / 20% HP & Atk / 2 turn Mitigation / +2 to BB Fill on BB & SBB / Cleanse
    Light SP: passive 50% All stats / +5% Ele Mit LS / (Not Using Hisui) EWD Null on SBB or (Using Hisui) Status Null on SBB & +10% Params boost on LS
    Dark SP: 50% Atk / 0-80% Atk based on HP / +75% Crit Dmg / +5% Angel Idol proc chance on LS

    so fire is a Fire Type Mitigator (yay?), Light just kicked Azurai in the nuts and further cemented Hisui as best mitigator (for those of us without Rain), and Dark is new arenaseum cancer. Yay.
     
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    Kira, I doubt it. Feeva, on the other hand, probably will
     
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    Here's to hoping this power creep hits Maxwell like a dump truck.
     
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    So excited for light guy... he has both my favorite art and kit from this batch. If he isn't killed by a global unit before release I will definitely be summoning for him.
     
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    firstly again, art is total reuse of previous models.
    the full versions do look pretty decent tho.

    fire; "guard meta mitigator" seems inferior to hisui. nice convert for fire mono but if ur using rain theres no need for the mitigation (i suppose could be spec'd as a good pair to a non mitigation rain).

    light; meh, a mono light spark buffer. garrel? that old geezer with the huge hp. isnt that pretty much his schtick? nice lead tho. expensiv sp. wud do job tho. dullazfuq art too.

    dark; scythes are always win. simple, but he's kinda sexy. obvious attempt to create an azurai/galtier fusion for arenaseum. thats a lot of ai. crit shud kill nice. he shud do the job.
     
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    I see dark more as a Juno non-limited sidegrade for colo use only. The LS is a bit better and he has 2x AI ES but Juno having mitigation helps a lot for a defensive lead.

    The other guy looks really cool tho. No more crit damage like Azurai (which wasnt very usefull most of the time), 5% more mitigation and 10% more stats via SP (if you chose that route) and BB MANAGEMENT.
    Honestly that was the missing part for leaders for a LONG time. In case you were close to filling SBB sometimes but couldnt fill it reliably all the time in a ST environement (with or without BC ge restriction) this unit allows you to do so.
    Having 2 of them (since I assume its stacks?) as leader is about the same as Ark/Azurai or Rain/Azurai defensively : no ATK down (but Rain can still be a sub for that) and the 30% miti is permanent. But with a lot more damage, BC gen and a better synergy with Rain sub (since Azurai's SBB kit isnt too good when you have Rain in the team already for stats).
    Or you can just have Rain + this dude for up to 35% mitigation LS and still more damage/BC gen than the old leader combos.

    His kit also seems really good even if we dont have numbers yet. He doesnt have the double attack (ST + AOE) thing but he has HP scaling SBB it seems? And I would be surprised if he was THE next generation of powercreep with 450% BB mod - 150% Spark on SBB without SP needed.
    His UBB is Ark-style UBB, most likely with higher numbers since there's a lot of time between those 2.
    2x this guy as leader also looks like a great combo because he has multiple (2) very good builds that work well together AND dont clash because he doesnt have BB% and Spark% SBB increase SP.

    The fire unit seems good but nothing special
     
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    I'd go with the stat boost for light on the light unit.

    25 50% all stats
    10 LS+: +10% stats to LS
    30 LS+: +5% mitigation on LS
    35 Add Effect to BB/SBB (3 turn +100% Atk/Def for Light types)
     
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    @DeltaHorizon020, I don't think you'll like this........

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    Fire - 8/10

    Light - 10/10

    Dark - 6/10
     
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    Light OE seems cool though in terms of artwork. But yeah, Remind me again why I don't buy Takahashi's excuse regarding him wanting to prevent powercreep by making meh-ish units before this ones tbh. Yeah, I heard it in the Nicolive that introduces Tazer and Kanon. And I still don't buy that excuse until now
     
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    P.S. If Feeva got the best unit of the year award (A.K.A. Feeva is being a great unit in her OE and getting a 10/10 in your book). I won't rant for Regil ;) #MakeFeevaGreatAgain
     
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    Seeing if im gonna have to pull this out:
    [​IMG]
     
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    light is op af. Obvious made to synergize with ark.
     

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